Wednesday, April 6, 2011

Thoughts on Concealed Carry - by Mike Oscar Hotel

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Thoughts on Concealed Carry - by Mike Oscar Hotel
I'm a strong supporter of concealed carry.  From my earliest memories, Snuffy (dad) always packed heat.  I never really thought it through when I was a kid.  My dad carried a gun.  It was what it was. I remember one day asking my dad why he always carried.  He told me that in the early '80s a guy walked into a McDonald's and opened fire on the patrons, killing several children and adults.  He told me that if he was in that room, the man would only have had the chance to fire once.  Sure, it is a little cowboy, but his point was that he didn't want innocent people hurt because of a nut job.

I remember when I was ten, Snuffy and I were hunting around Row Lake in northern Maine.  For some reason, Snuffy knew that we were being watched.  He told me to expect a Game Warden to arrive at any time.  Sure enough, out from around the bend rolled the man in green.  He asked to see our hunting licenses and inspect our weapons.  We obeyed and Snuffy, as usual, started to shoot the breeze with the Warden.  The Warden handed us back our rifles and Snuffy pulled out his wallet.  He handed the Warden a small card and the Warden looked back at Snuffy quizzically.  Snuffy said, You wanted to see 'em all, right?"  The Warden stammered a bit and said, "Uh-huh".  Snuffy opened his jacket to reveal two Smith & Wesson revolvers with 8 3/8 barrels - one under each arm in a double shoulder holster.  The Warden's eyes grew large and stated how he was usually good at spotting such things, but had no idea that Snuffy was carrying, let alone carrying large.  Snuffy chuckled all the way to the truck.

When I discuss concealed carry, I often find that people are hesitant to get their license.  Most people cite the fact that they will be entered into a database and, if the turds ever hit the proverbial fan, they will be singled out.  I take issue with this method of thought. 

Carrying concealed without a permit, in most states, is illegal.  If you get busted by the local po-po, you will have a criminal record, no longer be eligible for concealed carry and you will get a fine and you will most likely lose your gun.  Beyond that, if more people get busted carrying concealed, the Govt. will undoubtedly take action to abolish concealed carry completely.

I disagree with the database system.  If I get pulled over on a traffic violation in Colorado, I come up as a "person of interest" due to my CCW status... even though I passed one of the most stringent background checks on civilians in the country.  That being said, if they ever have a Hitler-style gun grab here in the U.S.A. (which I doubt), they will know that I have weapons and will come to my house to confiscate them.  So be it.  I live next to a town that is known for their militia activity.  I don't think I'll be of much interest to them, but even if I am.......well....the day and hour of my death are already recorded by Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior.  Let them come.  I accept what he sends to me.

If you don't want a permit, start taking action locally to promote Constitutional Carry.  This is the way it ought to be.  We have a right to bear arms.  When people question the fact that I carry, I often tell them this -  When you get in a car and drive down the road, it is a privilege granted to you by the state and county that you live in.  Other states recognize that privilege as well.  If you get in trouble while driving, that privilege can be revoked by the powers that be.  When I carry, it is my right.  Not a privilege.

This is going to sound far out, but I promise you as a Christian that it is not.  After you get your permit, you may be tested for restraint.  Within the first month of getting my permit, two things happened.

1.)  I walked into the local convenience store, not but a few miles from my house.  As I was checking out, the lady behind the counter asked me if I was in a hurry? I thought she was going to give me a promotional item.  I told her I wasn't in a hurry and she quietly asked me to hang out in the store for a bit.  She pointed at a gang banger type on the other side of the store and stated, "I think he's about to rob us."  I smiled, told her I'd be right back, went out to my truck, grabbed my gun, slid it into the back of my pants and returned inside.  I dropped the ball on that one.  I should have had it on me. The guy had been hanging out all morning and the girls thought the guy was casing the joint.  Turns out, he just looked rough.  He was waiting for a ride.

2.)  My wife and I went out for "date night" which actually entails us doing the grocery shopping.  We stopped at a Starbucks (I'm know, I'm a whelp of a whore for corporate America) to get a coffee.  As we walked out the door, I saw a car pull up.  A man got out of a car, followed by a woman that he was dragging by the hair.  They were both obviously drunk.  She was refusing to get out of the car.  He, in turn, gave her several knuckle sandwiches.  The guy driving the car was also beating on her.

So ask yourself - what do you do?

a.)  Pull your piece.  Quote some Dirty Harry.

b.) Kick the guy in the head and hope the driver doesn't pile out of the car and gang up on you.  They may or may not be armed.

c.)  Walk away, it isn't your business.

d.) Observe and call the police.  If things get too bad, you'll jump in.

I would have to say that throughout the different decades of my life, I would have chosen a few different options.  In my late teens, I would have chosen option b.  In my 20's, I would have chosen option a.  In my 30's, I chose option d.  That schmuck wasn't worth drawing down on.  My wife was there and my first duty was to protect her.  If I was in a scuffle and out numbered, I'd be doing nothing but putting worry on her.  The best way to win is not how they do it in the movies.  Always walk away if you have the option.

If you don't have your license, consider it.  As the old saying goes, Rights are like muscles, if you don't use them, you lose them". 

Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum,

Mike, Oscar, Hotel......out.


  1. Great post!

    If, by whatever perversity may arise, the Feds should want my guns - they can have them. I'm certain that we'll have entered an anarchist scenario and that I can secure the needed weapons from another source.

    Personally, I don't look for that to happen. And I agree that we should be looking at Constitutional carry. If the badniks already have guns, why shouldn't we be able to even the playing field?

    I'll give it more thought, though in the meantime - keep up the great posts. I always enjoy reading what you have to say.


  2. I recall showin up in Lewiston Maine, down in the slums one night, helping some freinds with some missions work. On our way to our apartment we were staying in, one of our girls was braced by a drunk chick who attempted to assault her. Things were taken care of and the drunk girl was deposited in her sister/our neighbor's kitchen, and we went upstairs. The entire time, she was threatening that her gangbanger boyfriend was going to come kill us. The girls asked me and my 2 Marine buddies to sleep on thier room, so we did, on the floor, with me closest to the door. A few minutes later, the cops showed up, but couldn't do anything until something happened. Shortly after they left, a low black car, swung in, and she went out to it, yelling that we were going to get ours now.
    Marine #1:"you have your concealed carry?"
    Me: "Yup."
    Marine #2:"You concealed and carrying?"
    This old County boy had a loaded .357 under his pillow, pointed right at the door.
    Nothing went on the rest of the night, or the weekend. But like MOH says, better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

  3. concealed carry is a joke and an infringement on our second amendment.

    we have the right to bear arms and by getting a concealed carry system in place those rights have been infringed upon.

    therefore i will carry something more reliable and unconcealed called a rifle. yet again even in the open if we are to carry in plain view outside of any hunting season regardless of reason we will be ridiculed for the odasity to carry such barbaric weapons.

    my concealed carry is wedged in my mind and soul as that of belief in god and as MOH stated my expiration date is set from the day i was concieved and only visible by god himself. no man made weapon is going to change this either way.

    review the bill of rights for this nation and realise how purchasing your concealed carry permit is a way that this nation has found to infringe upon your right to bear arms with your willingness and permition to do so with in the same proccess of charging you for it. i feel strongly of this yet you still will not see me carry a handgun of any sort.

    you will however see me with good old trustworthy and acurate E.N.Davey by my side at any given time.

    rest well everyone.... GT

  4. Haha - great comments, guys. Yak - I'd love to see constitutional carry. If you have additional thoughts, blog 'em. I'm going to send traffic your way tonight via link of the day. @ B&A - I didn't remember that story! Remember the time those punks outside the Irving were actin' a fool at 3am and we didn't have any weapons? hahaha.

  5. @ GT, as you well know, never bring a knife to a gun fight and never bring a pistol to a rifle fight. ;)

  6. Just curious, how long does it take to get a CCW license in our state? I'm thinking of starting one and it's 9 months hers in CA.

  7. Nothing like that. You take the course, bring the paperwork and cash (about $150, I think) to your local town office or whatever. They take prints and make you feel like a criminal, then it's about a 90 day wait, depending on the demand. I know some people that have had it back in 30. Depends what county you're in. If you're in CO, I can point you to some good teachers and some guys who just get it done. Depends on your comfort level.